If you suffer from back pain due to herniated disk, degenerative disc disease, bulging discs, slipped disc, ruptured disc, sciatica, spinal stenosis, facet syndrome or any of the other common causes of low back pain, then you’ve probably heard about spinal decompression.
Seems like wherever you turn you see or hear ads for this new back pain therapy. But what is it? And does it really work?
The concept of distracting a disc to relieve pressure is nothing new. Traction units in various forms have been around a long time. Until recently however, traction was unable to create meaningful disc decompression due to a protective mechanism of the body by which muscle spasms lock the disc shut.
With the advance of computer technology, researchers were able to figure out a way to trick the body into thinking it isn’t being distracted. The result: no protective spasm and the ability to finally open up the disc space to cause changes within the discs. The leader in spinal decompression technology is Axiom Worldwide, the makers of the DRX9000, arguable the best spinal decompression unit available.
Research is ongoing, but all accounts to date show great promise. A very high percentage of patients report less back and leg pain and over 80% report complete relief from pain. Before and after MRI’s prove that the disc is actually being repaired with more hydration and less bulging.
Readers must be cautioned however, since not all back pain and sciatica sufferers are good candidates for this newer procedure.
Contraindications to Spinal Decompression:
- Spinal fusion
- Metallic spinal implants (bolts, plates, screws)
- Fresh disc surgery (less than 6 mos)
- Severe bony stenosis
- Severe osteoporosis
- Grade II or greater spondylolisthesis
- Cancer or tumors of the spine
- Infection of the spine
- Pregnancy
- Aortic aneurysm repair
- Inability to lie flat
Conditions Treatable with Spinal Decompression:
- Herniated disk
- Degenerative disc disease
- Bulging discs
- Slipped disc
- Ruptured disc
- Sciatica
- Spinal stenosis
- Facet syndrome
- Chronic lower back pain
- Failed back surgery (without metal implants)
How Do You Know if You Are Eligible for Spinal Decompression?
Specialized consultation and physical examination by a spinal decompression specialist
MRI or CT scan
Your family physician, orthopedic surgeon, chiropractor, acupuncturist, or physical therapist has no idea whether or not you are eligible. Only a doctor who specializes in this treatment has the training and qualifications to know. In order to find out, you must have an evaluation and an MRI or CT scan review. Beware of any doctor who accepts you for care without a thorough history, examination and MRI review.
Free Spinal Decompression Qualification Evaluation with “OC’s Professor of Back & Leg Pain”:
Orange County is home to one of the very first dedicated DRX9000 Spinal Decompression Centers, Orange Spine & Disc Rehabilitation Center in Orange, CA. Each month Medical Director Dr. Barry L. Marks, DC sets aside a certain number of Free Evaluation appointments to help severe back pain and sciatica sufferers find out if they are good candidates for this procedure. To see if any appointments are available this month call (714) 938-0575 or email Dr. Marks’ office at info@spinediscrehab.com.
For more information including a Free Report in the mail, follow this link:
http://www.spinediscrehab.com/orange_spinal_decompression.html
This is very interesting! Thanks for leaving the comment on my site.
Unfortunately, I do have grade II spondylolisthesis, but still, it’s a relief knowing that medical treatments are constantly progressing.
For those that may not know… A Spondylolisthesis is a slippage of the vertebral bone and it is graded by Grade I-IV. A grade II is moderate and prevents a patient from receiving spinal decompression treatment.
Rae, just keep your lower back in good shape by keeping good core strength. I’m sure your doctors have already harped on you about that! If not check this blog… core lower back stretches already posted, ab work out already posted and core exercises coming up soon!
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks, DC
Thanks for the comment on my site Dr. Marks. Reading this post is amazing; I have had persistent back pain for 11 years, especially around my period.
Thank you Sharon.
Low back pain just before, during and just after your period is VERY common.
Two things to consider:
1. Remove inflammatory things from your diet:
Caffeine (sorry!), chocolate (sorrier!!) too much red meat, fried foods, packaged foods
2. See your chiropractor… manipulation of the pelvis and sacrum help ease the pain of a period and many women find their period back pain eventually goes away with regular care.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks
Thanks for visiting and commenting on my newest blog “Run the Cat.” I appreciate your kind words.
I like your blog. I don’t suffer from back pain (hopefully never will) but I like that you stress good core strength. Good knowledge for everyone!
Yes I agree kweenmama. My goal is to not only educate people with back pain, but everyone with a back. And everyone can benefit from good core strength.
Thanks a lot for visiting and commenting on my blog “The Way to Wellness” It’s time to start a Healthy life: your 7 days program” you encourage me to post a blog daily.
Thanks for your comment. I thought about what you said when I stood up on that hill!
I am very curious about the Spinal Decompression machine. I live in San Diego. I was diagnosed with DDD with a Bulging disc in L-4-L-5 and DDD with high intensity point from L-5-S-1. It has been about 12 weeks since it happened and i still have some irritating pain. I refuse to get shots or surgery. I have been doing alot of streches and working into more core work which has helped. I would like to know what more i should be doing. Id also like to know how many treatments you usually need with the DRX 9000 and how much each treatment costs. Also if there are any machines in San Diego. Thanks for taking the time to read this and look forward to hearing back from you.
Rodger Holliday
Thanks for stopping by Rodger,
If you have DDD (degenerative disc disease) no treatment other than spinal decompression is going to actually help heal or repair the disc.
Therefore, I beleive you should seriously consider decompression with a DRX9000. I use a DRX as opposed to other units because after researching all machines at the time, this was head and shoulders above the rest. I could have bought 2 of the competing machines for the price of this one, but I know I purchased the best.
Treatments vary depending on your case. 20 is average and I have had patients require up to 50 before they were totally stabilized due to their severely deteriorated spine. Most patients will be done between 20 and 25 sessions.
Cost is usually for an entire package and will range from $4,000 – 7,000. My office has a flat rate fee that covers you up to 30 sessions. We offer several financing options and have a program where your MRI is included in the fee. A continuation or maintenance program in our office afterwards can be as low as $420 per year.
Rodger beware of offices selling 1-3 visits by the visit ala cart, to “see if it works.” I have had my share of miracle patients who felt tremendous relief after a few treatments, but these are the exception. Research tells us it takes right around 20 sessions to rehydrate a disc and reduce disc bulges. Stopping after less than 20 sessions is a big mistake. I’ve had people who took until visit 28 before they felt their back suddenly improve. This is a serious and long-term problem that requires commitment from the doctor and patient. Half-hearted, piece meal attempts just won’t cut it.
I will refer you to someone in our DRX network if you go to my website and request our free report at http://www.orangespinaldecompresion.com
Good luck Rodger and keep me updated.
Dr Barry L Marks, DC
Thanks for the comment on my site! I appreciate your kind words
I swear, I would almost say it was fate. I suffered from a a back injury in 2001; a 60% compression fracture of the L4 vertabrae. I was operated on in 2002 (a laminectomy and a fusion???) Not too sure, but I know the surgery took 11 hours! Since the operation I have not suffered any back pain except occasionally long car rides, which can hurt anyone’s back I’m sure.
I will definitely bookmark the site for future reference. Thanks again
ELizabeth
so how does spinal decompression really differ from spinal traction?
Thanks
Chris from chriskolba.wordpress.com
Thanks for your question Chris. Check out my latest post here. I just happened to be working on this piece when your comment came in. http://spinaldecompression.wordpress.com/back-pain-and-sciatica-articles/
Thanks again. If you have any further questions, please feel free to comment here.
Dr B Marks
Thanks for the info. Great site.
Would love to get your opinion on my site.
http://www.chriskolba.wordpress.com
Thanks
Keep up the good work.
Chris
So how does the machine actually “trick” the body? What is the mechanism that makes it different from traction which has provided good results in many (not all) cases? And how is the cost justified vs traction that is reimbursed by the ins companies?
Im not trying to be difficult, im really interested in understanding the diff so i can educate my patients and myself.
Thanks
Chris
Thank you Chris, not a bother at all.
There is a “feedback loop” that allows the DRX to not only pull, but also “senses” how much the patient’s body is resisting or pulling back. This is all computer software controlled. It calculates this (manufacturer data here) 17 times a second. This allows for constantly changing amounts of pull so that the spinal muscles do not spasm or tighten up. Traction machines use electrically controlled “dumb” winches to pull. They cannot provide variable amounts of pull based on what the patient’s body is doing. All tehy can do is ramp up to a certain amount of pull, hold it there statically, then release if it is a “intermittent” traction device.
My experience is that it works for the vast majority of the people I put on my machine. I screen patients very well. If you were to just stick anyone with back pain on the unit, the success rate would be much lower.
I’ve worked a lot with traction in the mid ’80′s and this is far superior.
Regarding costs: This is a big area of controversy for chiropractors (not the patients). Now, mind you this is for my office, other offices may be different. Unlike many chiropractors who heavily discount their fees and provide “cheap” care, I don’t. I’m a 22 year highly trained, highly specialized doctor providing a specialized service that is in high demand. I charge a fair, but professional fee.
I just bill for everything I do. A spinal decompression program is more than laying on a machine for half an hour. I bill for a minimal E/M code (each visit the patient’s response is reviewed and treatment may be altered accordingly), mechanical traction, hot packs/ice packs, electrical stimulation, neuromuscular rehab (for exercises I do with the patients using a cold laser), and when appropriate, exercises and spinal manipulation. Total all that up and it costs.
I do bill insurance for the patient and how much is covered depends on how good their policy is. Many policies have very limited Chiro coverage, while others are more realistic and pay us on par with PT’s and MD’s. And just like those other providers, I don’t feel compelled to discount my fees because I’m charging a fair fee for a vitally needed service. I know that patients seeing a PT are paying equal or more and my treatment works better. The cost to the patient is a value because they are getting treatment that works and is far less expensive than epidurals, surgery or other treatments that don’t work.
Thank you again for your interest.
Thank you so much for the insight. Ive always wondered what the difference was and how the decompression units actually worked. I agree with you 100% that you shouldnt discount your prices. the more people do that the more insurance companies will cut. We have to charge a fair professional price for our services and not let insurance or lack of dictate our price. Thats for the patient and THEIR ins. co. to fight out.
Thanks again!
Chris
Thanks for visiting my site. I appreciate your comments!
Chris
Thanks for your comment on my site. Hubby had the fusion (L5 & L6?) 3 years ago. Now there is so much scar tissue, that he’s still having pain.
Dear Dobegil,
Find someone in your area that does cold laser therapy. This is a non-invasive therapy that can help relieve inflammation and pain. There are also settings on the laser to deal with scar tissue formation and how it blocks the transmission of electrical energy through the body. Worth looking into. Go to http://www.erchonia.com and look for “physician search” link on the left sidebar.
Warmest regards,
Dr Marks
Hey Doc,
thanks, info. The closest cold laser therapy I found was in Vegas. Good thing, since we have family there.
Deb
Hi Dr. Marks,
Since I saw you for the evaluation, my back has gotten worse. Haven’t been able to sit or stand more than a few minutes and I’m back on pain medication. I truly believe that Spinal Decompression is my only hope for a normal life. This past week I really contemplated calling my surgeon and proceeding with that option because insurance will cover most of the cost. I wish the insurance companies would support spinal decompression therapy.
I just want to take advantage of all options before I go “under the knife”. I will be in touch soon to begin the treatment. In the mean time, no refereeing on the soccer field for me!
Sandra
I truly feel for you Sandra,
My best clinical judgment says that you are indeed a good candidate for this procedure and I look forward to getting you back onto the soccer field soon!
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks
I’ve had a bulging disc in my lower back for the past 7 years and all I’ve been told to do (even when the sciatic nerve pain goes to my leg and causes me to be on crutches for a week or so) is take aleve or tylenol. I am in my mid 50′s and this is not getting any easier when the pain comes… I now have developed mild blood sugar and high blood pressure (I say mild because when tested my blood sugar ran a 130 month ratio and the blood pressure is in the same category). When the pain comes it’s hard to say, because the lower back, the hip the and at one time I even thought I had apendix problems because my lower rigth side hurt so bad… I didn’t know where the pain was coming from. Q: Would decompression be something that could work for me and if so, do you have any offices in Texas?
Hi Josephine, sorry you’re having such a hard time. You definitely need to have a full evaluation of your back to include a physical exam, x-rays and possibly an MRI depending on the x-ray and exam findings.
This is the minimum that should have been done when you had your first episode of this pain.
Josephine, please listen to this: it is totally unacceptable for you to be hobbling around on crutches only taking Aleve when other methods are available to solve your problem. Shame on who ever gave you that advice.
Sciatica is a serious condition. Repeated episodes of sciatica means there is a serious underlying problem that must be addressed.
I do not have an office in TX, but I will send you a referral from one of our affiliated offices.
Good luck to you. Hope to hear about your throwing away the crutches soon!
Dr Marks
I am desirous of the latest research and where the procedures are performed in the L.A. area-especially those which are non-invasive.
Thank you.
Hi Jim,
Thanks for stopping by. For research go to: http://spinediscrehab.com/spinal_decompression_research.html
You’ll also note the location of our office and it’s proximity to parts of LA County and an offer for a Free Qualification Evaluation to see if non-surgical spinal decompression is right for you.
Thanks again.
Please let me know if I may be of any further assistance to you.
Warmest regards,
Dr Marks
Hello Dr Marks,
Nice job, good website with lots of important information. It is helpful. No matter what type of pain we suffer from, it is a constant struggle to deal with the aching pain and still carrying on. Thanks to spinal decompression, at least people have reason to smile. I have been visiting an informative site for a few weeks now it is also providing good information and helping many with their medical advices. Here is the website Click here to read on Spinal Decompression
Thanks for sharing this…
Dr. Marks,
Is it possible for anyone under 16years of age to have DDD? Can you kindly tell me where I can find scientific proof that this is possible or not. Does it occur after major trauma?
thank you
Aldo
Thanks for your question Aldo.
Yes, degenerative disc disease can occur in the teenage spine. It is not common, but does certainly occur. There are forms of arthritis that afflict young spines.
Most commonly DDD in a youg spine woudl occur after trauma; either single large event (auto accident, sports injury, serious fall, etc) or multiple smaller insults (repetitive sports, accidents, etc). Once the disc is injured it may slolwy deteriorate over time and eventually show up on an MRI as a degenerative disc. This process can take several years.
Here’s an article from Spine-Health, a reputable website for spine info:
http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/back-pain/back-pain-kids-and-teens
Please let me know if there are any other questions I can help you with Aldo.
Warmest regards,
Dr Marks
Spinal decompression can help a number of people who meet the proper patient criteria. The more informed a patient is, the easier the decision.
Great work Dr. Marks.
I have a bulging disc problem, tried everything from therapy to accupuncture, to no avail. Is your treatment covered under Medicare?
Hi Marcia,
Your question is a common one…
MediCare coverage for Spinal Decompression:
Most DRX9000 spinal decompression facilities are operated by chirorpactors, as such any treatment given to you is considered “chirorpactic.” MediCare only pays for chiropractic adjustments, and only pays +/- $30.
HOWEVER, if you have a secondary insurance other than an HMO, then that insurance may reimburse for some of the expenses. How much all depends on your chiro coverage in your policy.
Some patients only get reimbursed a few hundred dollars, while others receive 80%+ of their bills covered.
The only way to know is to have a spinal decompression office call for benefits.
I hope this helps Marcia. If you have any further questions let me know. Thanks for commenting on my site.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks, DC
http://orangespinaldecompression.com
Nice blog Dr. Marks
I just became a rep for a company that has a high powered laser. The machine cost 60K but physicians can charge on average 150 dollars per visit. They can run it through insurance also. The laser is FDA approved for pain, goes down 10 inches deep depending on tissue density. How do you feel about high powered lasers and do you feel that they help treat patients that have failed traditional therapy?
I’m not sure what type of laser you are referring to. I use a “cold laser” in my practice made by Erchonia that I get very good results with for a variety of conditions. I really have no opinion of a “high powered” laser. Could you forward more info to me to take a look at?
Thanks for your comment/question MK
Dr Marks
Hi Doctor Marks!
Thank you for your reply ! the MRI, X-rays and bone scans didn’t show anything on the cervical area
I started to use the inversion table (EP-550)daily for 10 minutes at the time. It has been 10 days, no relief yet. I will use it for at least 50 days, hopely I would get some relief. What do you think about this inversion table decompression?
I keep going to the pool once a week for swiming as well.
Thank you
Thank
Hi Dori,
Thanks for the update on your condition.
Good news that those procedures were negative, but are the x-rays truly normal? Make sure your neck x-rays show a normal curve measuring 30-40 degrees. This normal alignment is not usually considered by medical radiologists. If your curve is reduced or flattened or in some cases reversed, it will be a source of neck pain and overall malfunction of the nervous system.
Inversion distraction can help relieve pain from tight muscles in the back, but there is no scientific evidence of it actually decompressing discs or re-hydrating discs. In only rare instances could it hurt you, so, give it a try for awhile, but if after a month or so, it hasn’t helped, chances are it won’t.
Another low-tech, but effective method of distracting the cervical spine at home is to place a towel rolled into about a 4″ roll on the edge of your bed. Lie down with your neck on the roll and your head hanging down over the edge of the bed. In this way gravitational forces pull down on your head over the roll which acts as a fulcrum to open up the joints of the cervical spine. I have foudn this to be very effective at relieving spinal stress and restoring normal neck curves particularly after trauma like an auto accident.
Good luck Dori, I hope youa re feeling better soon.
Warmest regards,
Dr Marks
http://www.drmarks.com
Hi I have had many spinal decompression treatments for pain radiating down my left leg. 38 treatments. It worked great but now I have more severe pain going down my right leg wear I never had pain before til I was close to the end of my treatments. I then recieved decompression treatments for the simptoms in my right leg and the pain became more intense. My doctor an I decided to quit after 35 more treatments. Would you have any advice for the cause? Has this ever happend to any of your patients during treatment? thanks wendy
Hi Wendy,
I have seen cases where the leg pain switches from one side to the other. This can occur when the disc herniation is centrally located rather than far to the right or left. I have not however, seen a case where one leg clears up then the other acts up and doesn’t respond. That is curious. If it is feasible, I would have another MRI done to compare with the original to see if things have changed internally. At 35 and 38 treatments I would say you and your doctor have given it a good go. I would suggest you lay off the DRX and possibly concentrate on doing some deep soft tissue in your back, buttocks and posterior thighs with cold laser and active stretching.
Keep me in the loop Wendy. I’d like to know how things work out.
Dr Barry Marks, DC
http://www.spinediscrehab.com/nopain.htm
Hello Dr Marks- My MRI was done by request of family doctor, and the nurse contacted me back and said it is a Bulging Disc, Degenerative Disc Disease, and I’m 45 and 200lbs and 5’10″ and I will be going to an appointment in bout one month to Steindler Orthepidic Clinic, and my work is warehouse work and I feel its from all the lifting I do. I can do a majority of different types of work there, but I like the physical work. Is there any encouraging words for me, and with out knowing exactly how the MRI looks, can you give me advice on what to ask in visit there?
Hi Kevin,
Sorry about your back. What I can say is that unless you have progressive or severe neurological problems like a foot that you cannot lift up or numbness around the “saddle area” or anus, you should not entertain the idea of spinal surgery until all other methods have been exhausted.
Methods such as the DRX9000 may be able to help heal your disc, reduce the bulge and alleviate your back pain.
No matter what treatments you decide on, let me tell you openly and honestly my opinion about your work. I realize you like the physical nature of your work, but let’s be realistic. At 45 and now with a bulging disc do you really want to jeopardize your ability to do any kind of work at all? Maybe you should consider a position where you can do a little bit of physical work and then also less strenuous activities as well. Pace yourself and give your back a break. Your back will not last forever and if you continue to work it too hard it will eventually fail, big time and then you’ll be in trouble. Please consider these words carefully Kevin.
It would be better to get your physical energy out by working out in a controlled environment with weights and/or machinery than lifting, bending and twisting in a warehouse.
The key things to ask are: are there signs of nerve impingement? Do I have stenosis? Are there a lot of degenerative changes in the bone? Are there any signs of instability of my spine? Get your orthopedic opinion and then go home. Do not taker any action. Premature action leads to many unnecessary injections, surgery, etc. Then make an appointment for a DRX Spinal Decompression specialist in your area. Email me for a referral if you like or go to http://www.orangespinaldecompression and request a report. When you do and my office sees you are from out of the area we will automatically forward your request to someone near you. Get an opinion from them and then go home.
Then consider your options and select the option that feels right to you.
I wish you luck and I would love to hear back from you.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks, DC
http://www.spinediscrehab.com
Super page / will come back again soon
Thanks! I’ll look forward to speaking with you and answering any questions you may have.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry L Marks, DC
http://cureforlowerbackpain.com
http://twitter.com/drbarrymarks
Hello,
All of the websites talk about the back. My problem is in my Neck. I have 3 dehydrated disc, 2 deteriorated disc, reverse curve, and S-Class Scoliosis (through my back) Of my Neck. My docs says the disc where probably herniated and healed on there own. I have a lot of pain and life altering migraines. My docs just keep giving me shots and adjustments. Is there any hope of a procedure that can help. Does your machine work on NEcks.
Hi Heather,
Sorry about your neck. This site is dedicated to the back because that is the area I specialize in. There are physicians out there that do perform spinal decompression on the neck. Check out http://axiomworldwide.com and request info from a doctor in your area with a DRX9000 “C”
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks
http://orangespinaldecompression.com
Hello I am sending you a message from England – I had spinal decompresion surgery for a bulging disc around 2.5 years ago as I had developed seere sciatica – loss of muscle in my left thight and drop-foot – this last week the pain has returned for the first time with a vengeance and I was wondering if the DRX9000 treatment is suitable for me and if it is available in the UK? Please reply to me. Many Thanks
As long as you haven’t had any of your vertebrae fused, there is the possibility the DRX9000 could help. For overseas facilities contact http://www.axiomworldwide.com and search for a doctor near you.
Good luck!
Warmest regards
Dr Barry Marks, DC
http://www.spinediscrehab.com/special.html
Very Many thanks for the information – they didnt “fuse” anything what the surgeon did was to “grind” the bulging bit away – in your opinion if I resume my exercises will this help the muscles get strong again? and help me be free of pain – I really dont want surgery again if it only lasts two years or so ….
Hi,
You mentioned yesterday that I might be suffering from myelopathy. My wife thought it was funny that you mentioned all of my symptoms even though I didn’t mentioned all of them. I also have short term memory loss. She and I think that you might be right on. Why haven’t any of the doctors that I went to checked into this. I was involved in a rear end collision in 1988. At that time the Navy doctor cracked my neck because of the stiffness. He never took xrays. I never went back because it wasn’t a pleasant experience. I got yelled at constantly for not being still and not giving him full control of my neck. He said he could hurt me. I’m presently going through VA disability. I have seen numerous doctors since getting out of the service for these issues. Many pushed it off as being in my head, or thats what I thought. I’ve been given numerous muscle relaxers and pain medicine throughout the years. I presently take 600 to 1200 mg of Advil or Ibuprofen daily for headaches. Some doctors and chiropractors took it more serious; but I never had an MRI until 18 years after my accident. That was for the deep subfacial lipoma that was removed from the back of the neck. This was large and the scar is indented and quite big. I decided to go through disability since my headaches and pain is worst. I also was diagnosed with depression, because of the pain and no lasting relief. I went to a rhematologist for knee, ankle, big toe and neck pain and he said that I have myofacial pain syndrome and facet joint syndrome because of the whiplash. He referred to the MRI from 2006. I also have right calcific posterior tibialsis tendinitis and bilateral big toe arthritis. Do you think that my whiplash injury could of caused myelopathy if it is this. Do you think that my bilateral cubital tunnel surgery for the ulner nerve could of actually been coming from my neck? Could my whiplash injury cause or aggravate my lipoma to grow.
Thank you for your response and taking the time out of your day to do this.
Rod
Hi Rod,
First, thank you for your service. I am always humbled by those who have served the rest of us.
Next, your Navy doc was probably an Osteopath or DO; a physician trained in manipulation AND medicine. Unfortunately, most DO’s spend very little time manipulating so when they do, it can be quite rough. Those that do many manipulations a day for several years are quite skilled, but most do not. No doctor should perform manipulation without an x-ray, particularly when there is a history of trauma like an auto collision. Also, any doctor performing manipulation should be able to perform the task on you comfortably without “asking” or yelling at you to “relax.” A real pro who is gifted in this art just does it without drama.
It is possible for lipomas or synovial cysts to erupt over areas that have been traumatized, so it is possible yours was related to your MVA. A large scar may also cause problems as the scar is not just in the layers of skin, but may reach deeper and make attachments to different layers of muscles and fascia causing pain if not removed.
Your present day disc problems and possible myelopathy are highly likely to be from your whiplash years ago. Time wise it makes sense. And yes, the bilateral cubital tunnel issue could have been stemming from your neck. I often find people on their 2nd or 3rd carpal tunnel surgery, but continue to have pain because it is from their neck. It could’ve also been a “double crush.” Some pressure at the neck and some at the elbow causing an overall nerve blockage resulting in symptoms.
My advice is still to get another MRI and have some electro-tests done. The VA should be able to provide that.
Again, good luck and keep me posted.
Dr Marks
http://orange-car-accident.com
hi. this is a very informative article, thank you. I didn’t fully understand spinal decompression until i read it, other than relieving pressure. very interesting on ‘tricking’ the body into thinking it isn’t being distracted.. i appreciate the fact that you indicate not all back pain sufferers are good candidates for spinal decompression, and the contraindications. seems there are quite a few back pain causes and symptoms it does treat, though – very common ones.
thank you again for the informative article. i’ll be back
Julie
Thanks Julie!
Have to tell it like it is. Many conditions are successfully treated, but nothing is 100%
Thanks again for stopping by and commenting
Warmest regards
Dr Barry Marks, DC
http://orangespinaldecompression.com
Hello: I am a chiropractor. Practice in malaysia. Appreciate your help. I am considering a DRX. Have you found it to be good investment as well as beneficial for patient? Thankyou Dr. Tom
Hi Dr Wiltse,
I believe the DRX9000 is an invaluable tool for a doctor who wants to be able to help back pain patients rehabilitate their spines in order to avoid surgery. I can say from my anecdotal experience treating patients, it has been a tremendous success for the majority of my patients. Personally, I found great relief when I suffered a herniated disc in December of 2008. I was glad I had the machine in the office, because it fixed my back and has kept me working.
Whether or not it is a good investment, depends on you. They are expensive. You will need to market the services to pay for the increased cost of the equipment. You may want to consider leasing a used machine. You can find a good 2 year old system for about 1/3 the price of a new one, so the cost of adding the service to your practice will be less burdensome.
Doctor, it is my opinion that if you decide to provide spinal decompression that you must be passionate about it and add it because you truly want to help a segment of the population that up until a few years ago had very little hope. I can tell you that I am very gratified when I receive testimonials from my patients who say thanks for saving them when nobody else could.
Dr. Marks
Good luck and I wish you well.
It seems like business is still getting hit hard. Is anybody seeing an upswing in their respective niches? Health reform seems like a mess. I generate long term care insurance leads and annuity leads for the insurance industry, but volume has been terrible in the last two months. I am afraid the worst is yet to come, but maybe it is just my attitude.
Hi Jack,
Honestly, I don’t know of any local businesses that haven’t been affected by this recession. These are tough times and people are being very discriminating on where they put their dollars. All I can say is, my office continues to try to give each of our patients the absolute best service we can and the results they expect at a reasonable cost. That value translates into referrals and we continue to move forward.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks, DC
Dr. Marks,
I noticed you state that metal implants are contraindicated for decompression treatments. My mother, who lives in Canada, happens to have metal implants but was told that she could try the decompression treatments. She was told there would be no guarantee. However I’m concerned that there may be adverse effects if it is contraindicated. I don’t want her to start the therapy if it could do more damage. Could you tell me if there is a downside to her trying the treatment.
Thanks
Hi Francis,
Fusion with metal implants is a contraindication for spinal decompression according to the manufacturer. To make sure, you can contact them directly at http://AxiomWorldWide.com
Be safe and do your research first before you take any action.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks, DC
Back pain is the absolute worst. You really don’t know how bad it is and how much you use your back until you pull a muscle or injure yourself.
Yes most people overlook their backs until they hurt.
Thanks for visiting
Dr Barry Marks, DC
As somebody suffering from lower back pain, I have found your article very interesting and informative
You have a lot of useful information, thank you for taking the time.
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Dr. Marks,
Excellent article,
It appears there are a lot of different manufactures of spinal implants offer a lot of different systems. Is there a lot of difference between vendors or between newer or older implants say like cages or spacers?
Thanks for your question James,
I am not an authority on surgical hardware. There is indeed a wide variety of types of hardware. I beleive the individual surgeon, based on past use and on the individual patient’s condition and problem is the determining factor on which hardware they will use.
Dr Barry Marks, DC
Hi, just today found this blog but I have to say that it looks great. I totally agree with your post. Have a nice day, keep up the nice work and I’ll definitely keep reading.
hello, i am seeking advice of treatment decision, i am having back pain that is driving me crazy, just recieved my mri results and am trying to decide proper treatment course. the mri results are:
small disk herniation L4-5 causing neural foraminal stenosis
L4-5 facet joint disease with left sided facet joint synovial cyst intraspinal compressing on the descending nerve roots posteriorly.
the cyst measures 9mm in greatest dimension and it causes mild central canal stenosis, right foraman ispatent. L5-S1. and L3-4 mild facet joint disease, mild DDD. so am wondering what this all means and what to do to help with my pain, also what would have caused this.
thank you for hearing me out and would be graetly appreciative of any advice, thanks robin
Hi Robin,
Yours is a case in which I recommend having surgery. The synovial cyst is not going to go away any other way. It is a large enough mass that it is going to remain a problem. The cyst is caused by degeneration of the facet joint. A microscopic piece of joint material breaks off and becomes encapsulated and turns into a mass. This must be removed to make room for your nerves. My opinion is that a “minimally invasive arthroscopic spine surgery” would be your best bet. You’ll need to find a surgeon that does that type of work as not all surgeons do this procedure.
Good luck.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor, Orange, CA
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Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor Orange, CA
Orange Spine & Disc Rehabilitation Center
Dear All,
I’ve DDD at L5-S1, T12 and at C2-C6. Stable fracture at pars articularis(right side) of L5-S1 as well. Spondylolisthesis grade I/II. I could not walk for 2 weeks. I need crutches to walk. The pain was like a knife stab into my back. I got stomach pain, diarrhea. Could not sleep for 3 nights. I was screaming for pain. Both knees were in pain as well, got miniscus tear on the left knee as well.
My career was in the dark. A family to take care off. Too many financial obligations, etc. There were no lights at the end of the tunnel. I’m heading to disaster.
But that was since August 2009. The doctors advise were not convincing. Traction cause further pain especially to the fracture area.
I did my own research. Never give up. I found out about Spinal Decompression Method. Give it a try in S’pore for 23 session. Bought Inversion Table from Teeter as well. Did 10-15 minutes of inverting a day. Took up some physiotherapy exercises to strengthen by Knee, back and stomach muscle. Took up some supplements (Glucosamine, Chondroitine, MSM, OMEGA3 and Dietary Calcium). I went to Chiropractic Treatment as well(35 sessions).
All pain went away in Nov 2009. Still does until today. I loss 25KG of my body weight as well (that helps reduce the pressure to the disc). Need to reduce more to normal BMI.
I’m back to work now. Got Dr BackBone for my office chair and my driver car seat. Need to ensure good posture as well.
I skip rice since August 09. I drink a lot of plain water. I skip meat, I skip oil, I skip coconut milk. I skip all the fried food. Just fresh vegetables, steam/grill fish. Took early dinner at 6PM.
Spinal Decompression does work. Never opt for surgery until you cannot bare the pain. Try to bare the pain as much as possible. The risk is too much for surgery. And the most important thing, never give up. I loss my faith in medical doctors in my country, on top of not giving any reliable options for recovery, they’re not injecting motivations or morale support to patients as well. Not all doctors tough, just my doctors.
I wish good luck to everyone.
Hi, I have had an MRI and it says that I have degenerative (ddd) at multiple levels. There is disc bulging at L 3-4, facet joint hypertrophy and a 1.4 em [is that big or small what is em?] synovial cyst arising from the left facet joint that result in a moderate canal stenosis and thecal compression. No focal lumbar radiculopathy is seen. DDD is seen to a milder degree at the L4-5 level where there is mild anterior thecal effacement but no significant thecal compression or focal lumbar radiculopathy.
I don’t have a lot of pain, just irritating tingling in my feet. Would the spinal decompression work for me or is the synovial cyst mean it won’t. My symptoms are mostly on the left, not a lot of pain but a kind of vague tingling in my feet [both] but more on the right.
Hi Carla,
I spend most of my time helping patients try to avoid surgery. In your case however, I beleive you may need surgery to remove the cyst. The report probably has a typo; the 1.4 em is most likely supposed to be 1.4 cm (centimeter) which is large. The cyst will not be removed or helped with spinal decompression and it is likely the canal stenosis that is causing your foot sensation. I’d recommend having a Neuro Surgeon who does minimally invasive arthroscopic procedures do the surgery.
I’m afraid that is the only advice I have for you Carla. I wish you luck.
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor
Orange Spinal Decompression
Dear Dr. Marks, Thank you for your quick response. I’m pretty disappointed that I can’t have the spinal decompression. I have never really seen a chiropractor for my problems but have an appointment this Wednesday. I’ve seen physical therapists though. Would it be okay to have my back worked on even with the cyst, for some of the other things that are noted on the catscan. The neurosurgeon who I saw said he wouldn’t do surgery because I was not in enough pain and my gait was normal etc. Tingling is not considered serious I guess. Would any kind of work on my spine from a chiropractor be dangerous with a cyst. If the cyst bursts or something is that dangerous.
You are a wonderful person to take so much time, helping people and setting their minds at ease.
Thank you a million times.
Carla Burton
Hi Carla,
Well you could of course avail yourself to chiropractic or physical therapy perhaps to relieve some pain or spasm, but those procedures will not correct your problem. Risk? Probably not. If it did rupture it would decrease in size which might be a good thing.
I am surprised by the neuro’s response and frankly I feel it is bad advice. The cyst is causing stenosis or pressure on your spinal cord which is most likely causing your feet to be numb. Why wait until you cant walk to take it out? I’m not a surgeon, so I’m not sure, but I think a minimally invasive (arthroscopic) procedure could be done to remove the cyst and relieve the pressure with very minimal risk. I’d consider another neuro.
Good luck Carla!
Dr Barry Marks, DC
I think I will pursue that. I wonder what the cost would be. People have told me that neurosurgeons are reluctant to do work on people who are not in a lot of pain because in case the surgery doesn’t work.
Thanks again for your thoughtful responses. They are much appreciated. Wish you lived in my area.
Carla
Hi Carla,
I appreciate your kind words. Yes, its true if you’re not in a lot of pain some doctors may be reluctant. From my perspective, if a patient comes to me with a rational reason for wanting treatment and yours is certainly that, and you have realistic expectations, then why not proceed?
I have not come across a post with a surgeons name here. What region are you in?
Dr Marks
Someone has posted some information about minimally invasive surgery for a cyst and gave the name of a good surgeon…I can’t seem to find the post now. Any idea where I might find it?
Hello,I am sending this mail from Turkey.I have been far lateral disc hernia between L4-L5 for 35 days.This is sport injury by the way.I have back and leg pain first 20 days but not longer.I have only left foot dorsal flexion weakness about 15-20%.I am curious about DRX 9000 treatment suitable for me?
Yours sincerely.
Hi Gokhan,
DRX9000 may be helpful in your case, ti would depend on a few factors to determine whether you are a good candidate. From the limited information you have given, I’d be inclined to say yes, it should help you. With a foot weakness like you have and being an active athlete, you must be very aggressive with your back in order to return to sport. Find a DRX9000 near you and try it. Monitor your ankle strength very closely; if it does not respond and come back within a month or so, consider a minimally invasive discectomy to relieve the nerve pressure.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractic Dr Orange, CA
Orange Spine Center Spinal Disc Decompression
Hi! I am currently getting spinal decompression treatments. I started a journal to track my progress and I was wondering what you think about all of the people on the net that say it is a hoax and that it caused more pain for them.
Hi Dana,
Journaling is a great way to track how your back problem and hopefully how spinal decompression is helping you.
It’s an unfortunate fact of human nature that those who are dissatisfied with an experience or product tell approximately 9 people. Satisfied people may tell only 1 person or none at all. The internet is a double edged sword. It can disseminate great information, but it is also a forum for anyone and everyone with an axe to grind. For those that the program does not work for doses not mean it is a sham. It means the program did not work for them. There is no medical treatment that works for everyone with all conditions. One thing I can say is that I have not had a patient since 2005 that has gotten worse because of the DRX9000. The failures (approximately 10% of patient population) were people who were good candidates for the treatment, but who simply did not achieve the level of pain relief we had hoped for.
I can tell you as a DRX9000 spinal decompression provider, this is no hoax. The system works. More importantly and personally I can tell you it works because 2 years ago I suffered a disc herniation in my lower back and became a patient in my own office! My staff put me through the same process all of our patients go through and I am very pleased to tell you that my back is no longer a problem. I was completely pain free in about 10 sessions. I continue to do periodic sessions about once each 3-4 months and can do essentially anything I want to do with my back.
Continue your treatments and your journaling, remain optimistic and pay no attention to the disgruntled amongst us. Once you’re done you will be able to form your own opinion based on your own experience just like I did.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor Orange, CA
Orange County Spinal Decompression
I live in British Columbia. It was a post about a surgeon in New York I think.
Dr. Barry … This is a very effective therapy and I’ve seen miracles worked with spinal decompression. Nice to see doctors like yourself getting out there and helping others. Good insight
Thanks Matt! As the saying goes…”I’m not only the owner providing this great service…I’m also a successful patient!” It kept my herniated disc from disabling me and forcing me into early retirement. Thanks for stopping by.
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor Orange, CA
Orange Spinal Decompression
Hello,
I have had an MRI of the cervical spine. Can you explain what is multilevel degenerative changes including broad-based shallow disc?
Thank you
Jimmy
HELLO, I’VE TRIED EVERYTHINg SHORT OF SURGERY. DEGENERTING L5 IS MY PROBLEM. I BEEN TO FOUR REHABS, CORE STUFF, POSTURE PUMP AND TRACTION,ACCUPTION, AND EPIDERAL STAGGED. I’ VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS. SO I SAW THE SURGEON AND HE EITHER WANTS TO FUSE ME OR DISK REPLACMENT. THIS OF COURSE IS THE LAST RESORT, SO I ‘VE BEEN DOING DECOMPRESSION FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS. THE PAIN HAS BEEN ON AND OFF FROM 1-10 IT WAS AT A TEN FOR A WHILE THE PAST THREE DAYS IT FEELS LIKE IM JUST STARTING TO SEE RESULTS. MY QUESTION IS SHE SHOULD I STICK WITH IT. OR HAVE I JUST BEEN LUCKY THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH IT NOT HURTING. PLEASE GET BACK TO me soon cause about to stop the treatment now and move on to the next step. thank you.
I strongly recommend you continue. It does take time there are rough patches and the results can be up and down. Overall, the patients I see do respond, but it may take up to 40 sessions, so keep at it and making steps forward.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks Orange Spinal Decompression
Dear Dr Marks
After suffering for many years with Sciatica in my Right leg I approached my Doctor with pain in the opposite leg.
My First MRI Scan with Gadalineum was done and showed some disc protrusion at L3-4 and L4-5 levels with some indentation on the cord but no significant compression of nerve roots.
I had a fall after that scan had been done and was in considerable pain. The pain was very different from pain I had experienced previously (I had an L5-S1 Laminectomy many years ago).
The Second Scan was done 7 months later and confirmed there was a Large diffuse posterior Disc Bulge at L3-4 and an annular tear causing moderately severe stenosis of the canal. At L4-5 there is a diffuse posterior bulge with a high signal consistent with an annular tear with mild to moderate stenosis of the Canal.
At L5-S1 there was evidence of a previous right laminectomy with a small right paradiscal protrusion abutting on the L5-S1 nerve root with some loss of fat plane surrounding the nerve root which are features suggestive of epidural fibrosis in this region.
The thing I cant understand Dr Marks is I was told there is no difference between the first and second scan. Yet Weeks after the first scan I had a fall and started with incontinence problems.
In your opinion is there much difference between some disc protrusion at L3-4 on the first scan and a Large diffuse posterior Disc Bulge at L3-4 and an annular tear causing moderately severe stenosis of the canal on the second scan.
I had surgery many months later, I’m still in pain and still suffer with incontinence. Could this be due to nerve damage?
Regards
Caroline
Yes Caroline, there does seem to be a significant difference. The incontinence would be coming from spinal cord pressure; the moderately severe canal stenosis noted on the second MRI may very well be the problem. The other factor to consider is did the fall cause a problem with your bladder? A urologist would need to determine whether your bladder is ok or if it is compromised in some way. Depending on your age, you may have had a degree of bladder prolapse (slipping and lowering due to ligament tone loss from age) then the fall could have worsened it.
I hope this helps.
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor Orange County
Orange County Spinal Decompression
Dear Dr Marks thank you for replying.
I was 36 when i had the accident. The bladder problem did start then and was very noticeable, by the time i had surgery it was nearly 12 months from the day of the accident as I was told there was no difference in the scans.
I have seen another Surgeon Since and explained about the Bladder problem but it seems to of been overlooked again.
I shall mention it in 3 weeks when we meet again as there is a feeling of Urgency that comes on very quickly when i need the toilet, majority of the time i do not make it. Also when i attempt pelvic floor exercises the flow of Urine continues. This did not happen before the Severe Stenosis Dr Marks.
Many thanks
Caroline
Dear Dr Marks. Today I have received a letter from my old Surgeon with more information regarding the 1st and 2nd MRI Scans. These are the exact quotes. MRI Scan in September which mentions “At L3/4 there is an annular tear and significant central and left paracentral disc protrusion which is flattening the anterior aspect of the Cauda Equina.”
The subsequent MRI Scan showed ” At L3/4 there is a large diffuse posterior disc bulge containing a focal area of abnormal high signal intensity consistent with an annular tear. this is causing moderately severe stenosis of the canal. “I note this was present previously and does not seem to of changed significantly”
I think I’m being told in a nice way there was no change in the condition. Iv also been told to refer back to the surgeon who informed me there was no change in the 2nd MRI Scan. The surgeon who wrote this letter was the person who did the actual surgery 9 months after the second scan.
Dr Marks in your opinion does there seem to be any difference between the 2 MRI Scans after reading the above information.
Many Thanks
Caroline
They are essentially stating the same thing Caroline.
Dr Marks
Dear Dr. Marks,
I’ve had lower back pain since January, now classified as a herniation, and over the past 3 months it’s been constant and has not let up. I’ve seen chiropractors and recently had an injection for a nerve block in between my L-4-L-5. It’s been 2 weeks, and the pain has not dulled any at all. The next step after that the doc says is surgery. I’m thinking about trying physical therapy to relieve the pain, but am not sure whether it will help at all.
Sitting down and standing up after sitting cause the most pain, and at my job I’m sitting all day working. I was just checking to see if therapy would be one option or what other options could be. It looks as though decompression is another option from all the posts above. I am just trying to avoid back surgery since I’m only 24 years old. The injury occured while playing basketball in January, but never hurt bad until the past 3 months. What, in your opinion, would be the next direction I need to take, becuase I’ve heard from multiple people that surgery doesn’t fix the problem but about 20% of the time.
Thanks,
John
John,
Physical therapy, chiropractic, and acupuncture may help alleviate some pain associated with a bulging disc herniation, but they cannot correct the problem.
In order to try to correct the disc herniation problem, you have basically two choices: 1. DRX9000 Spinal Decompression or 2. Surgery.
Read up on spinal decompression on this site for more information. AT your age and the type of problem you have, I think it may the answer. Then find a local office that performs spinal decompression for an evaluation.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks, Chiropractor Orange CA
Orange County Spinal Decompression specialist
Dear Dr Marks,
My mother has been suffering for years with lower back pain, and has finally found a practitioner here in Spain where we reside that seems to be helping. She uses the TheraFlex back care system. As I dabble in graphic design my mother asked me to help her out with promoting her clinic.
I am writing to you to request permission to use an image that appears on your site in an advert that will appear in a small local english newspaper, image url:
http://spinaldecompression.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/back_pain_in_young_woman.jpg
I understand you have more important things to do than reply to this sort of comment, but it would be much appreciated.
Thank you
Samuel
Yes, you may. Thank you for asking. I hope your mom does well.
Dr Marks Chiropractors Orange County
Chiropractic marketing is basically a business skills.Every chiropractor must have unique and each has specific strengths and specific weaknesses.
Thanks
Dear Dr Marks,
Unfortunately, I live a great distance from your practice but I was wondering if I could ask for some advice about Inversion Therapy. I have a very old spinal injury and Advanced Peripheral Neuropathy, a very painful degenerative nerve disorder. My last EMG shows that while my motor nerves are basically intact, I have a 78% loss of nerve conductivity. Can Inversion therapy help with the Neuropathy? I have tried it in the distant past, before the advancement of the nerve degeneration. Also how would I go about finding a Dr that Specializes in Inversion Therapy in my area.
Thank you in advance for time and consideration.
Inversion therapy may provide some relief, but I’ve never seen any specific studies that indicate that an inversion table can relieve chronic neuropathy. I would imagien you could just Google Inversion Therapy (your city).
You may also want to consider Cold Laser Therapy for your neuropathy. I’ve had good success using it on my patients with various neurologic disorders.
Good luck.
Dr Barry Marks Chiropractor Cold Laser Therapy Orange County CA
There are various tips and techniques recommended for the avoidance and prevention of back pain. Using a Swiss ball or sitting disc to sit on, stretching regularly, maintaining good hydration and incorporating some core conditioning exercise into your life are just some recommendations. There is a new UK back pain relief device which is designed not only to reduce disc compression but to exercise and mobilise the muscles, joints and ligaments of the spine all at the same time. It’s called the “Lumbacurve” and it’s much smaller and cheaper than inversion tables and comes with an instructional dvd of exercise routines and a handy bag to store or transport it so that you could still use it at work or whilst travelling
Dear Dr. Marks,
I have a 6th lumbar vertebra as well as 2 discs that are degenerating and 1 of those is also bulging. No surgeon locally will do anything because there is no constant pressure on the spinal canal. But I have increasing pain in both legs Rt>Lt most of the time. I’ve been searching, trying to find something that can be done for me. I live in Ontario Canada and I am wondering if you can provide any answers for me. I’m 36 and have been suffering increasing back pain for 10 years.
You should be able to find both non surgical spinal decompression and cold laser therapy in Ontario. Do a search fro those treatments as they are likely to help you. If they fail you can also try “prolotherapy,” but I’m not sure if that is available in Canada. You must do something to prevent your spine from fully deteriorating then you will have to have surgery and that outcome is very uncertain.
Warmest regards,
Dr Barry Marks
Orange County Chiropractic Treatment
Just found this site on a search. XLNT site. I have had major back problems over 40 years now (going on 57 soon). I remember AGONY when I was 17 … I have no life. I have a ton of different diagnoses coming out of my ears. Nobody has a clue. I have 20+ tests that all say this and that then they say, well, where do we start. I have been to 10 too many doctors. I don’t have any injury. This is me. I was pulled out of 7th grade PE for bad posture. I was born with this I suspect. Stenosis, lousy L4, L5, and S1. Nerve impingments all over the place. Retrolisthesis. You name it … One big famous spine doc out here in Thousand Oaks said, well I don’t know what to offer you so let’s just fuse it and see what happens. Went to famous doctor #2 and he said do NOT NOT NOT do surgery unless you have a crushed vertebrae in a car accident and you have no choice. The statistics were staggering — 60% were WORSE, 20% said NO CHANGE after a year of recovery from the surgery whatever kind it was and all their problems, and 20% got better. Famous doctor #2 said, I know you are miserable but do not fuse or you will live to regret it. Oh, -2.0 osteoporosis so the spine will continue with age to compress and lose bone mass so don’t even consider a disc replacent he said, over the next few years you will live to regret that too as the L5-S1 will continue to degenerate and compress. Sex is almost impossible. Walking more than 15 minutes makes me stiff as a board. Driving – forget it. Did the DRX900- and was worse. Nobody told me that a retrolisthesis was contraindicated and nobody took me seriously when I cried out in pain just from laying flat on it. Everybody else I know that did it got almost 100% better and was grateful. Only me, the failure of the group. My question is –
Last week somebody in a parking lot demolished my Saab 9000 — the only car I have been able to sit in. I had it for 12 years with a former Saab I bought in 1988. I have to buy a new car now. NOTHING works except the captain’s seat of the Toyota Highlander. It’s like a Mack Truck. I need a seat like the Saab – totally parallel to the ground AND high up. The Saab wasn’t high, only 10″ (those were the older models). The new Saabs are parallel but only like 6-7″ high, which puts my knees almost into my chin (I’m 5’9″ tall). I don’t know what to do. Once upon a time a Volvo was good too but they changed over the last 10 years. So it is an SUV or nothing it seems. I am in a rental Ford right now, totally parallel seat to the ground .. but not high enough. I do not know what to do. I drove the Highlander for a day – GREAT comfort – but almost wiped out this little baby car behind me that I couldn’t see as his headlights were below the level of back window. Very dangerous. I am scared to drive these trucks (AKA SUV’s). As a chiropractor and as the facilitator of this site, I haven’t seen any comments on cars here in America. What do you know and what do the people here have to offer? When I say ‘parallel’ to the ground, I’m not kidding. If my ass/lower back is lower than my knees, it is Pain City. It ABSOLUTELY has to be parallel and as high as possible.
Today the Toyota dealership put me in touch with a guy that modifies car seats. I looked at a Volvo and he would have to bring the back part of the seat up about 3″. Sounds good but then it puts my head 2″ from the ceiling which is very dangerous.
I hope you and others on the site can help me here. You know what, this is horrible. Horrible way to (not) live.
Thank you for reading all this.
Yours is a very interesting and sad case. Yes, with retrolisthesis and osteoarthritis you really shouldn’t have been put on a DRX.
As far as vehicles go, it would be strictly trial and error. I understand what you need, but I don’t know which vehicle would suit you best. What you need is a midsized vehicle with a tall green house (cab) so that if you elevated the seat you’d still have head room. Vehicles that come to mind: Land Rover Discovery, Land Rover LR2, Subaru Outback, Nissan cube, Jeep Liberty, BMX X3, Cadillac SRX, Ford Escape…
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks Chiropractic Treatment Orange County
Bought a Toyota RAV4. Had the seat modified. Totally comfortable. Guy is out your way, Rancho Cucumonga, SEMA certified. Knows what he is doing. For people in most of the SoCal area, this man is The Savior. Looked at me, looked at the car (he met me at various dealerships, how’s that for service) and said, “You are a Right Angle Woman”. He ‘get’s it’ with people like us. He fit me perfectly and here’s to at least 10 years on this car.
Thank you for answering this.
i have a 11mm disc bulge, am i a good candidate for decompression and laser therapy.
Possibly. The size is less important than how it is situated and if there are any other complicating factors. The first page of this blog ( http://spinaldecompression.wordpress.com/ ) gives you a list of contraindications (things that would make it unsafe or ineffective) and a list of conditions it can treat. review thsi list to see if you are a candidate, then consult with a non surgical spinal decompression specialist in your area.
Good luck!
Dr Marks Orange County Spinal Decompression
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Hello Dr. Marks.In October 2010, I noticed a pain in my left hip and leg, worse when sitting and REALLY worse when going from sitting to standing. Attributed it to overdoing running sprints with my son during football season. (No, I don’t play…) Visited my regular Chiro, he tried some adjustment, thought it should be better in 2-3 weeks. No go. Next stop – Ortho Carolina. Took X-Rays, nothing wrong bone-wise, suspected Sciatica, put me on a pack of Medrol, plus directed my to Physical Therapy. Medrol took the ragged edge off the pain, and after 7-8 weeks of 2 a week PT, thought i had it under control. But taking just one week off PT, by Jan 1, back to bad pain. Convinced PT is not going to be the magic bullet here. Tried to do home PT exercise – slightly better but still couldn’t sit for more than 10-15 mins without pain. After 3 weeks, gave up – next stop – Metrolina Neurology. Gave Doc the whole history. He ordered up a EMG/NCV and a MRI. EMG/NCV he did himself, and did not indicate anything wrong with the nerve per se. Lumbar MRI revealed this: Mod size left central/left subarticular focal disc protrusion contacts desc Left S1 nerve root and displaces posteriorly. Also slight contact with desc Left L5 root. Mod Left lateral recess stenosis. Mild/mod central canal stenosis. Mild/mod Left and no signif Right foraminal stenosis. IMPRESSION: Degenerative disc disease at L5-S1 with a left-sided predominance.
Neuro Dr. said there was nothing he could do for me – back to Ortho Carolina. They gave me another Medrol pak and ordered a Cortisone shot. Got the shot Mar 2. Noticeable improvement over the next 3-4 days, but by now, Mar 10, it’s 90%+ back to where it was right before the shot.
Fortunately I can sleep – very little pain lying down. Standing and walking is a 2 or less, once I get going. getting going after sleeping or sitting down for more than 15 mins takes a bit to work it out. Sitting, again, maybe 15-20 mins – both office chairs, car seats, even an exercise ball – all painful after that. Goes from a 4 to at least a 6. Getting up out of a chair – cranks both hip and back of knee to at least an 8, sometimes worse. I am a software configuration analyst and have had to figure out how to work and type standing up for short periods. This constant pain is getting so old and it is really affecting my home life as well, as I just look (and feel) like a cripple getting up and down all the time. Getting rough on the wife as well. At 49, I’m not ready to accept living in pain for the rest of my life. What options do you think I have or what should I try next?
Thanks and best regards, Jay M.
Hi Jay,
At this point, I’d say you have very few options. Chiro, PT and meds have failed to resolve your condition. The only things you haven’t tried yet are Spinal Decompression and Surgery.
Spinal decompression is non-invasive and if you are a candidate for it, has very few if any side effects, so you should try that route first. Locate a DRX9000 spinal decompression facility in your area for a free consult. Do your homework. There are offices out their (like mine) that do bill insurance for some or all of your care and offer reasonable fees.
If that were to fail, then I would recommend a minimally invasive disc surgery, but only if decompression did not adequately improve your condition.
Good luck!
Dr Barry Marks Orange County Spinal Decompression
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